Ugly Things’ Mike Stax: writer, editor, publisher, musician, songwriter, label owner – interview

January 24, 2013

Ugly Things’ Mike Stax: writer, editor, publisher, musician, songwriter, label owner – interview

Mike Stax, one of the most versatile
members of the professional music industry recently allowed “It’s Psychedelic Baby” a
look into his world. Renowned for his work as a writer, publisher, label owner and
musician, Stax recently shared his story with Psychedelic Baby’s Kevin Rathert.
Mike, you were born in the UK in 1962.
Where was your birthplace and was music a big part of life in the Stax
I was born in Watford, but grew up in
Cheshire, Leicestershire and Yorkshire. It wasn’t a particularly musical household, but the
radio was usually playing and my Dad had a record collection, mostly jazz. More
importantly he had a reel-to-reel tape of the Beatles’ Rubber Soul and Help albums, and I listened
to those repeatedly as a kid, usually on headphones.
Growing up, what kind of music and which
artists in particular were you attracted to?
After those Beatles albums, the next thing
that really grabbed my attention was David Bowie. Watching Top of the Pops was a
weekly ritual, and, like thousands of other English kids, seeing Bowie performing “Starman”
on that show was an absolute revelation, as was “The Jean Genie.” I was
an instant fan. My first album was Aladdin Sane, which I got for Christmas in 1973.
From then on I was on a constant quest for rock & roll. After Bowie, my next obsession
became the Rolling Stones – specifically the Brian Jones era band. Brian Jones seemed
like the ultimate rebellious doomed pop star and I read everything I could about him. At
the age of 14 I even travelled to Cheltenham to visit his grave.
Who was the first artist or group that
you wrote about and what publication was it published in?
I put together my first fanzine when I was
15. It was all about the Rolling Stones. I printed three copies and gave the other two
to my friends.
It is well known that you were a huge
fan of the American blues band The Crawdaddys. How were you first exposed to
their work?
I used to listen to John Peel’s radio show
every night on a transistor radio hidden under my pillow. One night in 1979 he played “Oh
Baby Doll” by the Crawdaddys. I was already a huge fan of ‘60s UK R&B bands
like the Yardbirds, Animals, Pretty Things and the Downliners Sect, so I was
astonished when Peel explained that this was a new record by a band from California. They had
the British ’64 R&B sound down cold. I tracked down the LP at a record shop in
Soho, and a few months later bought an EP and a 45, which were even better. At that point
I wrote a fan letter to the band c/o Bomp Records. Greg Shaw forwarded my letter to
the band’s leader, Ron Silva, and a few weeks later I received a letter from him
asking if I’d be interested in moving to San Diego and becoming their new bass player.
I’d just left school and was unsure of my next move in life. I saved up some money
for a plane ticket working at a vacuum cleaner factory, and within a few months was on a
plane to the United States with my bass guitar in my hand and about 200 dollars in my
Crawdaddys 1982 lineup
What was the first bass that you owned? 
What did you play in the Crawdaddys and what do you play today?
My first one was a cheap Fender Precision
knockoff.  I soon upgraded to a Gibson
EB2.  That’s the bass I brought to the
States when I joined the Crawdaddys.  But
in San Diego I found a Harmony and loved the sound of that one.  I bought it in 1982 for $75.  That has been the main bass I use ever since,
though I also have a Burns Baby Bison.
I have read that you relocated to San
Diego, California to become a member of The Crawdaddys. When did you come to the
United States? What was your role in the band and who were the other members?
I moved to the States in November of 1980,
the day before Reagan was elected. At that point the Crawdaddys consisted of Ron Silva
on lead vocals and drums, Keith Fisher on keyboards, Steve Horn on sax and myself on
bass. Soon afterwards we added Joe Piper on guitar. The lineup was constantly
changing throughout 1981-82.
Your relationship with The Crawdaddys
seems to have been full of ups and downs. Would you describe for our readers
your tenure with the band? How much recording did you do with the band?
What caused your exit?
The Crawdaddys was a learning experience
for me. Ron and Keith are exceptional musicians and I’d only been playing bass
for a few months when I joined so there was a sharp learning curve for me. Over time I
turned into a half-decent bass player, but my limitations were a cause of some
friction, especially with Keith, who also had a completely different vision for the band
than I did. He wanted to turn the Crawdaddys into a more sophisticated soul R&B
band, whereas I favored the raw ‘60s punk R&B sound of bands like the Pretty Things and
the Downliners Sect. After six or seven months it all came to a head and they kicked me
out of the group.
You returned to the UK briefly, but
within months you were back to California to stay. How was it returning to England and
why were you there such a short time?
I returned to the UK in the summer of ’81,
but within days – maybe hours – of arriving I knew I’d made a terrible mistake. I
wanted badly to return to the States and more importantly return to playing with the Crawdaddys. There had been a lot of teenage politics in my ousting, and now the
alliances had reconfigured and they wanted me back. I scraped together some money and was soon
back over there. That began a productive era for the Crawdaddys with a stable lineup
comprised of Ron Silva on lead vocals, Peter Miesner on guitar, Keith Fisher on
keyboards, Gordon Moss on drums and myself on bass. We recorded quite a lot of demos
during 1982-83 and some of these were eventually released on the Here ‘Tis LP.
1983 seems to have been a watershed year
for you. Tell us if you will how Ugly Things magazine came about? What was the
inspiration for the magazine? How did you arrive at the title? How many
writers contributed to the first edition?
Ugly Things came about because I felt the
need to turn more people on to the music I was passionate about: ‘60s garage, beat,
R&B and psychedelia. New music at the time was dreadful, synthetic rubbish, much of it
shaped by the MTV mentality. There was a lot of pretty-boy new romantic pop, a lot of
excruciating hair metal bands – all of it seemed phony and superficial to me. I saw ‘60s era
bands like the Seeds, the Pretty Things and Q65 as the antidote. They were raw, crude,
ugly and, above all, REAL. The name “Ugly Things” just seemed to sum it all up for
me. Obviously it was a nod to the Pretty Things, but it was also inspired by the Australian
‘60s punk compilation of the same name, which included the amazing song “Ugly Thing” by
the Creatures. There were only three or four writers at the time: me, and a couple of
friends, most of whom would be a part of my next band, the Tell-Tale Hearts, which we formed
soon afterwards.
What was the focus of Edition #1? In
those pre-internet days how were you able to locate the musicians and other members
of the music industry who you wrote about? How did the Ugly Things staff of
1983 compare with the present day staff?
Issue #1 had an interview with Steve
Garris, a local eccentric who hung around the scene, plus short articles on Q65 and the
Byrds. It wasn’t until Issue #2 that I was able to interview any original ‘60s musicians. That
issue included a lengthy interview I did with Sean Bonniwell of the Music Machine.
Fortunately he turned out to be a very thoughtful and articulate interview subject. It was
his first interview since the ‘60s and the first time ever he’d really talked about his songs in
any depth. Issue #2 also included an interview with members of the Leaves by Ray Brandes.
Locating musicians to interview was much
more difficult in those pre-Internet years. For example, I remember going down to the
public library and pawing through the Mississippi phone directory to find a phone
number for Sid Herring of the Gants. I was successful in that instance, but I often
had to make a lot of awkward cold calls when trying to track down band members. These
days it seems you can find practically anyone with a few clicks on the computer.
As for “staff,” there really wasn’t any. It
was just me and my mates. And 30 years later, it kind of still is – I just have more of them
How many copies of the first edition of
“Ugly Things” were printed? How did your raise the money to have Ugly Things
published and distributed? How did you promote the publication?
I printed 200 copies of the first issue at
first, and later had to do another 200 when that one sold out. I funded it with small loan
from the parents of my friend Carl Rusk, supplemented by a couple of local advertisers. Promotion consisted of taking it round the record shops in San Diego and LA and
selling a few at gigs. But I also mailed copies to some other fanzine publishers such as
Ron Rimsite (99th Floor) and Greg Prevost (Outasite) and that led to some
cross-pollination with the East Coast garage scene.
Subsequent issues thereby ended up for sale
at New York City stores like Venus Records and Midnight. It kind of snowballed from
there. At one point I had a classified ad in Goldmine, but they misspelled it as “UGLY
The same year you became a member of
The Tell-Tale Hearts. How did the band come about and who were your band mates?
You were the bassist in the band, right? Did you write any of the band’s material?
I formed the Tell-Tale Hearts in 1983 with
Ray Brandes (lead vocals), Bill Calhoun (organ, harmonica), Eric Bacher (guitar)
and David Klowden (drums). I played bass. I’d already played in a few ad hoc bands
with Ray and Bill while I was still in the Crawdaddys, and we were close friends. I
was frustrated by the direction the Crawdaddys had been taking and at how little original
material they’d been playing. It was time to start something new. Ray, Bill, Eric and
myself all contributed original material to the new group.
The Tell-Tale Hearts, 1984
The band was signed by Greg Shaw’s
Bomp/Voxx label. What was the relationship between the band and Greg?
Tell us, if you would, what was your personal relationship with Greg like?

Live, 1985
I already knew Greg pretty well, of course,
because of the Crawdaddys. He recognized right away that I was a FAN, a rock &
roll obsessive like him. I was always bugging him for information about different bands,
records and so on, and he was only too happy to share his knowledge with me, along with
countless cassette tapes of his extensive record collection. I think Greg was as frustrated
as I was that the Crawdaddys had failed to come up with another record, so when I told him
I had formed a new group he was immediately very supportive. He gave us a slot on the
second volume of the Battle of the Garages series and soon afterwards offered us a
deal to record a full album. Everything happened really quickly.
Park, 1987
The band cut an LP “The Tell-Tale
Hearts” in 1984 and an EP “The Now Sound of The Tell-Tale Hearts” in 1985. Could you
tell us a bit about the recording sessions for these releases? How were
The first album was recorded in about two
days at Silvery Moon studios in LA. Greg Shaw had booked blocks of time there
and a lot of the bands on Voxx recorded their debut albums there at around
the time. The Gravedigger V were there the week before us, I think, and the
Miracle Workers came in the week afterwards. Anyway, it was the first time
in a ‘real’ studio for most of the Tell- Tale Hearts so we didn’t have a big say in
the way it was recorded and ultimately were dissatisfied with the result. It
sounded too tame and clean for our tastes.
For our next record we went to Mark Neill
who had a studio in Dulzura on the rural outskirts of San Diego County. He
used all vintage gear, a three-track recorder, tube mixing board,
top-of-the-line ‘50s and ‘60s microphones, etc, plus he was a ‘real’ producer with a great ear.
It made all the difference in the world. I’m still proud of The ‘Now’ Sound record.
Sales? I think each of them sold a couple
of thousand copies, maybe less.
The Tell-Tale Hearts disbanded in 1987.
Why did the band break up? Were you a member of any band between 1987 and 1999
when The Loons released “Love’s Dead Leaves?”

Mike Stax 1988 practice
Eric Bacher left in ’86 and we lost the
original raw chemistry we’d once had. Peter Miesner from the Crawdaddys stepped in, and
did an excellent job, but we kind of lost direction. The band split into factions and
then into pieces. After that Bill and I regrouped with Eric to form the Barons. We started
recording an EP but broke up before we could complete it. Next Bill and I reclaimed the
Tell-Tale Hearts name with Jon McKinney on guitar, Ron Swart on organ and Paul Carsola
on drums. We released a couple of good singles, including a cover of the Pretty
Things’ “Circus Mind” but in retrospect I feel using the Tell-Tale Hearts name was a
mistake because it was a totally different band.
When that band split in 1989, Ron Swart and
I teamed up with three members of the Trebels to form the Hoods: Jay Wiseman
(vocals, harp), Xavier Anaya (guitar), Ron Swart (organ), John Chilson (drums) and
myself on bass. We were together for four or five years and recorded an album
(“Gangsters & Morticians” 1991), some singles and a 12-inch EP (“Four Songs
To Kill”, 1992). It was a fun time. Jay and I formed a pretty solid songwriting
team and I became more proficient at putting songs together and singing harmonies.
Eventually though I got the itch to take next step and become a lead singer and front man, so
in 1996 I formed the Loons, once again with Eric Bacher on guitar, John Chilson (from
the Hoods) on drums and Andy Rasmussen on bass, who was replaced by Gary Strickland
just prior to us recording the “Love’s Dead Leaves” album in 1998.
The Hoods
By the time The Loons first album was
released on Get Hip Records in 1999 “Ugly Things” magazine had been around for
twelve years. Could you describe for our readers the evolution of the
publication to that point?
The first 11 issues were very primitive in
the classic fanzine style. Printed or sometimes just photocopied on 8 ½” x 11”
sheets and stapled down the side. It was all typed out on an old typewriter,
then shrunk down on a Xerox machine and pasted into columns. All the photos had
to be shot as halftones using a huge camera. Paying to have that done was one of
my biggest expenses at the time, but it was money well spent, because even
though the fanzine was very basic in its layout, the photos always reproduced
well, and that became more and more important as we started using more rare or
previously unpublished photos.
The Loons

With Issue #12 Ugly Things entered the
computer age. I started using a desktop publishing program to layout the text, but
I still shot halftones and pasted them in by hand until Issue 23 or 24, because I
found the quality was better that way. Anyway, Issues 12 through 15 were printed
on 11” x 17” paper, then folded and saddle-stitched. The glossy covers began
with #13. Starting with #16 I switched to the perfect bound format as the mag
started to expand its page count. By Issue #20 we were printing 200 page
issues. Circulation expanded with every issue. Issue #1 had an initial print-run of
200 copies.   By Issue #16 we were
printing 5,000.
The Loons debut album “Love’s Dead
Leaves” consisted of only original material composed by guitarist Eric Bacher and
yourself, in contrast to your previous bands who recorded many cover versions. Why
the change? How did you and Bacher become a writing team and what was
the writing process like?
The Hoods records had been 95% original
songs, and with the Loons that became 100%. We’ve always played some cover songs in our
live set, but on record I wanted to do something that was entirely our own.
Collaborating with Eric came naturally. He’s a very creative person and would present me
with lots of very inventive riffs and chord progressions. I would edit and shape his
ideas, adding vocal melodies and writing lyrics, and then we’d then work on the final
arrangement together with the rest of the band. On some occasions I would come up with a riff
or chord sequence myself, and then Eric would embellish that, and we’d proceed from
there. “Insecurity Smasher” and “Never Enough” were examples of that.
2002 brought the introduction of Ugly
Things Records and its first release, “The Lost Acetates 1965-1966” by The
Misunderstood, who had released three classic singles in the 60s and a
compilation “Before The Dream Faded” in 1997. Where and when were these acetates
discovered and how were they chosen to be the first release on Ugly Things Records?

I was working on a huge, serialized story
on the Misunderstood at the time. In the course of interviewing the band members, it was
discovered that the drummer, Rick Moe, had a pile of acetates in his attic. They were
never really “lost,” but everyone else had forgotten their existence. As soon as I heard them, I
knew I wanted to release them myself through the magazine. That’s how UT Records began.
2004 brought the release of The Loons
second album, “Paraphernalia.” What were the sessions for “Paraphernalia” like?
How well did the album sell and did it get much radio airplay? Were there any
singles that accompanied the album?
The sessions for Paraphernalia were fairly
haphazard. We began recording the album with Jon Reis of Rocket from the Crypt
producing at his studio, but things weren’t gelling with the band so we abandoned it and
changed our lineup. After a few months rehearsing with a new drummer, Iain Sclater, we
started all over again at Earthling Studio. Things moved along fairly quickly after that. We’d
been sitting on some of the songs for several years and they felt a little stale, to be
honest. But we wrote a few new ones during the sessions, and those turned out the best.
For example, “Another Life” was written just a couple of days before it was recorded, and
the final arrangement happened right on the spot. We had no idea it would be an
11-minute track – everything was cooking so we just let the tape roll until the end of the
How many releases does the Ugly Things
Records catalog contain at this point? How do you decide which albums earn the
Ugly Things logo? What is the typical process and how long does it take
to complete a project for UTR, from conception to release?
We’ve released eight full-length albums
(three on vinyl and all of them on CD) and four vinyl singles. The process for
each release is different—some take months to plan and release, others happen
much more quickly. I don’t have a regular schedule of releases, they just
happen when the opportunity comes along, invariably as a by-product of a story I’m
researching for the mag.
I love the entire Ugly Things Records
catalog, but are any of the releases especially near and dear to your heart and
if so, why?
The Pretty Things/Philippe Debarge album.
Releasing a lost album from the Pretty Things’ psychedelic era was a huge
achievement for Ugly Things and something I’m very proud of.
You have a store on the Ugly Things
website.  When did you open the store and
how do you determine the inventory you carry?
You can check out the inventory here. I try to carry titles that aren’t otherwise
widely available (especially in the States) and that are in the same niche we
cover in the magazine. Vinyl does best for us, so that’s the main focus, but we
also carry CDs, books, and of course all the Ugly Things releases and back
The online store began about three years
ago. Prior to that I sold a few things through the regular UT website and in
the pages of the mag itself. I decided to expand that into a webstore, which
was a good move for me. The webstore helps keep me solvent between the
publication of new issues.
You coauthored a book “Like
Misunderstood” with Rick Brown of The Misunderstood. This is called a
biographical novel. What exactly is the book about and why did you and Brown coauthor
Rick and I worked for several years on a
movie screenplay about the Misunderstood and Rick’s subsequent
adventures as a fugitive in India. Rick came up with the idea of turning the
screenplay into an autobiographical novel as another means of presenting the story.
In 2010 The Loons released their third
album “Red Dissolving Rays Of Light.” Once again, all the songs are originals and
the only personnel change was the drummer. What affect has this stability had
on the band? How were sales of the album and were any singles released in
conjunction with it?
Shortly after we completed Paraphernalia,
Iain Sclater left the band, and we brought in Mike Kamoo on drums. Mike runs Earthling
Studio and had produced Paraphernalia so he was already a good friend and very
familiar with our work. His addition changed the entire dynamic of the band and I think
raised us to a new level. As we now practice at Earthling, we’re able to work on new song
ideas all the time, and if something feels right Mike will throw up a few mics and we’ll
record it. Red Dissolving Rays of Light came together that way over the course of
several years. I believe it’s our strongest set of songs by far, and Mike also did a tremendous job
on the production.
As for sales, I believe it’s sold a
thousand copies or so. We continue to languish in obscurity, as we always have,
and there’s no shame in that.
“Red Dissolving Rays Of Light” was
released on Bomp! Records, the late Greg Shaw’s label now run by his widow Suzy. Why
was the album released on Bomp!? Was the label resurrected especially
for this release?
Releasing the album on Bomp was Suzy’s
idea. The label has continued to exist as an outlet for reissues, but the Loons album
was the first new release on Bomp in about 20 years. Bomp has played a big part in my
life over the years – starting with Greg forwarding my letter to the Crawdaddys in
1980 – so it felt like coming home in a way. Suzy and Patrick are great people, and they
have treated us right.
The last two albums have featured your
wife Anja on bass. What is it like to play gigs and record with your wife as part of
The Loons?
Anja has been a Loon for about 14 years now
and she’s absolutely integral to what we do (as are all the band members). She
brings a lot of energy and ideas to the table. Being able to make music together is a really
special part of our lives.
Mike one thing we haven’t discussed are
all the albums you have written liner notes for and/or compiled. How many would
you estimate you have been involved with over the years? Do you
remember the first you ever wrote and/or compiled?
I haven’t kept count, but I’m sure I must
have written liner notes for over a hundred releases by now. I believe the
first set of liner notes I wrote was for Terry Gibson’s “Downliner” album in 1986.
Terry was of course the original lead guitarist for one of my favourite bands,
the Downliners Sect.
Following that line of thought could
you name a few which you consider the most important that you have been involved with?
Which of these projects were the most enjoyable to be involved with?
The two Nuggets box sets were obviously
important as they helped bring a lot of this music to new ears. I really enjoyed writing
the liner notes for Norton’s vinyl reissues of the first two Pretty Things albums (and a
third album of the non-LP singles), and also some of the titles I’ve worked on for
Pseudonym in the Netherlands. The Group 1850 story, for example, is one of the wildest
and most fascinating I’ve worked on. Writing about the Outsiders and Q65 never gets old
either – such great bands.
You have been involved in several reissues on the Dutch Pseudonym label,
such as the new 2 CD edition of the classic album “Crystallization” by Cosmic
Dealer.  How did you become involved with
I became involved with Pseudonym a few
years ago. I was knocked out by the quality of their releases  – the music, the
mastering, the packaging — but I felt they were missing  one important thing: liner notes. So I
offered to start doing that for them. I currently write the notes for about
two-thirds of their releases. It’s been a great experience so far, interviewing
all these different Dutch musicians and producers. I usually have two or three
different Pseudonym projects on the go at any given time these days.  I only write notes for music I’m enthusiastic
2013 will mark the 30th anniversary of
Ugly Things Magazine. Congratulations on the accomplishment. To what do you
credit the longevity of Ugly Things?
Probably a greatly protracted, undiagnosed
case of obsessive compulsive behavior. It all comes down to the fact that I love what
I’m doing in. I’m excited to wake up every morning and go to work, because I’m working
on the magazine.
Thirty years on, how does circulation
of Ugly Things magazine in 2013 compare to 1983? How many writers contribute to the
publication? How large is the staff at Ugly Things magazine?
The circulation has grown from a few
hundred to over 5,000. As I mentioned earlier, there really are no “staff” in the strict
sense of the word. The magazine is put together by a small circle of friends and fellow
writers around the world who share my passion for this music and the need to share that
passion with other fans. David Biasotti edits the music reviews, Andrew Corbin edits the
book review section, Bill Wasserzieher handles the DVD reviews, and Jeremy Cargill
helps out on a lot of other fronts, including the proofing and sub-editing of the
stories. I handle everything else, including all the administration work, ad sales, shipping,
marketing, and so on. It’s a full-time job that keeps me busy 40-50 hours a week at least.
Looking back on the thirty year history
of Ugly Things magazine there must be some pieces that you consider the most
important and some that you are especially proud of. Would you share a few
with our readers?
One of the pieces I’m most proud of is the
Misunderstood story, which was serialized over four issues starting with UT#20. I
can’t begin to guess how many hours I spent researching that story, interviewing all
the band members, and anyone I could find who was even remotely connected with the band.
The Misunderstood seemed to consume all my waking moments for several years.
But it didn’t feel like work. It was a life experience: I learned so much from it on so
many different levels, not just about the band and their music, but about the entire era
and how it shaped different individuals in very different, often extraordinary ways. I also
formed friendships with some of them that I know will last for the rest of my life.
Working together with Rick Brown on our movie screenplay and having Glenn Campbell play
on two songs on our last album, and then later performing live with us, were just a
few of the unforgettable side effects of doing that story.
There are several other stories over the
years that have affected me in similar ways. Not least of those, of course, has been my
ongoing relationship with the Pretty Things. I started out as just another naïve fan
fawning over them, and now I’m part of their extended family. In 2013, the year I
celebrate Ugly Things’ 30th anniversary, the Pretty Things celebrate their own 50th anniversary
as a band. There’s a special kind of symmetry or synchronicity in that, I think.
As for your thirty years as a musician,
what are your most memorable moments? What do you consider your best
compositions? What recording sessions are the most memorable? Would you share a couple
“on the road” stories of touring over the years.
That’s a lot of ground to cover. So many
memorable moments. Singing “Rosalyn” together with Phil May onstage with the
Pretty Things a few years ago was certainly one of them. Also the show we played with Glenn
Campbell guesting was unforgettable. When he played his solo during “I Can Take
You to the Sun” I felt I was levitating several feet off the floor of the stage. I
can’t begin to describe how amazing that felt.
Perhaps the most memorable recording
sessions were those for the first Loons album with Ebbot Lundberg as our producer. He
really brought out the best in us and our material, and turned it into something
I’ll leave it up to the listener to decide
what our best compositions are. For me it’s always the next song we’re working on.
Loons, Paris 2005
What does the year 2013 hold in store
for Mike Stax? A new album by The Loons? Are there any special recordings
slated for release by Ugly Things Records? I know this question isn’t fair,
but I have to ask it anyway: Are there plans for any special topics set to be
published in Ugly Things magazine in the future that you can share with us? Just had
to ask. LOL
Well, 2013 is a landmark year for me
because it’s the 30th anniversary of Ugly Things magazine. We have a big three-day
celebration in the works for Memorial Day Weekend at the Casbah here in San Diego. There’ll
be some great bands playing (including, hopefully, a couple of big names near and
dear to the world of Ugly Things – these yet to be confirmed at the time of writing),
and we’re also having film screenings, book signings and other fun stuff. Mark your
calendars and watch the Ugly Things website and Facebook page for updates.
Hopefully the Loons will finish another
album this year. We have six or seven songs already recorded and several more in the
works. I’m very excited with the results so far. We’re pushing and pulling in a number of
new directions, challenging ourselves to top anything we’ve done before.
The next Ugly Things is due in the spring,
and it’ll include my feature on Craig Smith (a.k.a. Maitreya Kali) of the Penny Arkade,
a story I’ve been working on for over ten years, and one of the strangest to ever
appear in our pages. The issue will also include stories on the Moving Sidewalks, the Nazz,
Sands (“Listen to the Sky”), the Focal Point, and Ann Arbor, Michigan’s legendary ‘60s
era teen club the Fifth Dimension. Should be a good one.
Mike, I want to thank you
so much for taking the time to give our readers a glimpse inside the evolution
of Ugly Things, the magazine and the record label and Mike Stax, the musician
and journalist. May 2013 be a special year for you and yours and continued
success in all your endeavors.
Thanks for giving me the
opportunity to tell me story to your readers.

Interview made by Kevin Rathert / 2013
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  1. Dennis Keller

    Great interview!

  2. Russ crocodile

    Fantastic insight on a great guy.

  3. Kevin Rathert

    Glad that people seem to be pleased with the interview. I gave it all I had, so thank you so much for the kind words.

  4. Johnny Strike

    Excellent piece on the publisher of the best rock 'n roll magazine ever and front man for the Loons, one of my all time favorite bands. Bravo!

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